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Penny Arévalo July 07, 2014 at 12:43 PM
You don't need a license to fish from the pier. He may not have one, and pulling it won't stopRead Moreanyon e from fishing from a fishing pier. See: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/licensing/fishing/sportfishingfaqs.html
Nicholas Messner July 07, 2014 at 08:57 PM
I see the antifishing treehugging PETA wackos are spouting their propaganda. Unrestricted accessRead Moreto fishing along California's coast is guaranteed by the state constitution (see Art. I Sec. 25 viz. “The People shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the People the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be passed making it a crime for the People to enter upon the public lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water containing fish …”). It is a ridiculous notion that banning pier fishing will prevent shark bites. If one thinks that the shark was "aggravated (an absurd attempt at anthropomorphism because sharks are primitive creatures who do not have emotions)" and thus was more likely to bite a swimmer, sharks caught off boats close to shore, as well as piers, then should be biting swimmers left and right. What if a shark captured by scientists bit someone? Should we ban scientific research in the ocean? What if a shark was attacked by an orca? Should we kill all orcas near our coastline? Finally, the vast majority of public piers in California were specifically constructed for fishing, not for surfing or swimming. Piers allow thousands to enjoy one of mankind's most ancient and rewarding pastimes who cannot afford to purchase their own boats or fish on party boats. Anyone who thinks that there is no difference between banning fishing at the surf line but allowing it at the end of the pier is ignorant; most fish targeted by pier anglers, such as corbina and croaker, can only be caught close to the shore. People who do not fish should keep their mouths shut on this issue and those opposed to it for some preconceived notion should be examined by a psychiatrist.
Walt Freese July 08, 2014 at 12:07 AM
I started this discussion in the Patch online the day the swimmer was injured by an agitated shark. Read MoreI 'm glad that I did. It has led to some worthwhile and respectful discussion among residents and watermen/women of Manhattan Beach. I'm sure it would have eventually happened without me, but the dialog needed to take place and our local government has some important decisions to make. I've been very pleased to see how they have handled matter through their recent announcements. I am very disappointed to see , however, that far too many people are resorting to name-calling, sarcasm and rudeness in their posts. One of the great things about Manhattan Beach is that people are generally kind, thoughtful, friendly and down-to-earth. It's one of many reasons that a lot of us live here . I stopped reading posts in this section a long times ago because, too often, I feel like I'm seeing people treating their neighbors and fellow residents in rude and highly offensive ways. If you are considering a post on this topic, I would urge you to ask yourself if you truly believe that it is honest, helpful and kind and that you have taken some time to verify things you want to tell people are true . Let's keep Manhattan Beach the special place that it is!
Nicholas Messner July 08, 2014 at 12:17 AM
I see the antifishing treehugging PETA wackos are spouting their propaganda. Unrestricted accessRead Moreto fishing along California's coast is guaranteed by the state constitution (see Art. I Sec. 25 viz. “The People shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the People the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be passed making it a crime for the People to enter upon the public lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water containing fish …”). It is a ridiculous notion that banning pier fishing will prevent shark bites. If one thinks that the shark was "aggravated (an absurd attempt at anthropomorphism because sharks are primitive creatures who do not have emotions)" and thus was more likely to bite a swimmer, sharks caught off boats close to shore, as well as piers, then should be biting swimmers left and right. What if a shark captured by scientists bit someone? Should we ban scientific research in the ocean? What if a shark was attacked by an orca? Should we kill all orcas near our coastline? Finally, the vast majority of public piers in California were specifically constructed for fishing, not for surfing or swimming. Piers allow thousands to enjoy one of mankind's most ancient and rewarding pastimes who cannot afford to purchase their own boats or fish on party boats. Anyone who thinks that there is no difference between banning fishing at the surf line but allowing it at the end of the pier is ignorant; most fish targeted by pier anglers, such as corbina and croaker, can only be caught close to the shore. People who do not fish should keep their mouths shut on this issue and those opposed to it for some preconceived notion should be examined by a psychiatrist.
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